Is There a Type of Politics that Would Make You Happy?

Maybe there's hope?

So many people dread reading the day's political news. But both Blue Ocean Faith's Dave Schmelzer and longtime Blue Ocean World co-host Val Snekvik can imagine a kind of politics that would encourage them. For Dave, it's a sort of ideal dialogue between conservatism and liberalism. For Val, it's one that values data and problem solving. With that as a starting point, Dave and Val have a freewheeling conversation about topics including Diane Feinstein and machine politics and, in the end, about where to find hope in the political world.