There was quite a bit of ad libbing this podcast, so in place of a full transcript, here are the ten marks of mature spirituality that Jack Kornfield described in A Path with Heart that Dave discusses. Below you'll also find the quotes Dave discusses in the podcast, from Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Thomas Merton.
Mature spirituality includes:
- (Or some replace this word with “constancy”)
- Integration and personalization
- Embracing opposites
From Dietrich Bonhoeffer's Life Together
God hates visionary dreaming; it makes the dreamer proud and pretentious. The man who fashions a visionary ideal of community demands that it be realized by God, by others, and by himself. He enters the community with his demands, sets up his own laws, and judges the brethren and God himself accordingly.
When things do not go his way, he calls the effort a failure. So he becomes, first an accuser of his brethren, then an accuser of God, and finally the despairing accuser of himself.
From Thomas Merton's The Wisdom of the Desert
These monks insisted on remaining human and “ordinary.” This may seem to be a paradox, but it is very important. If we reflect a moment, we will see that to fly into the desert in order to be extraordinary is only to carry the world with you as an implicit standard of comparison. The result would be nothing but self-contemplation, and self-comparison with the negative standard of the world one had abandoned. Some of the monks of the Desert did this, as a matter of fact: and the only fruit of their trouble was that they went out of their heads. The simple men who lived their lives out to a good old age among the rocks and sands only did so because they had come into the desert to be themselves, their ordinary selves, and to forget a world that divided them from themselves.